Curse

Shadow Maruader · Jul 22, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Well ive had it im gona make this thread in hopes ppl will become a lil more inlightened to this build i use for pve...unfortunatly its only pve but its really good.

Skills--
Barrage{E}
Critical Eye
Sharpen Daggers
Way of perfection
Shadow refuge
(Any skill preferbly Critical defense)
(any skill i use a distracting shot)
(Any skill i use a Rez signet)

Attributes--
Marksmanship->12
Critical Strikes->11+2
Shadow Arts->all the rest possibly 6

Armor--
You know it doesnt matter the armor i use reg 25 energy armor but its said that 32 energy works better i dont see much difference since it willworkds really well...

Weapon--
Doesn't matter so long as the bow u use is maxed i have a sundering which adds some dmg to the build but other then that its pretty much any bow u think is well suited.

Strategy--
Don't Rush into battle like normal if you were used to using daggers, just stay back and let the warriors take aggro, while they are doing that start preping urself for shooting activate critical eye, and Sharpen daggers(maby even way of perfection if u want to start with it), then pick ur target(try for one in a mob to utalize barrages effectivness)and start spaming barrage,For every critical hit u land with the Bow u get +1 +3 energy and with sharpen daggers on they will begin to bleed, if u had way of perfection on it will heal you for 20hp if u have 6 shadow arts,If u begin to recieve Fire or u get attacked by an Enemy warrior use Critical Defense to evade some of that fire and shadow refuge to start healing a little bit while u escape, If the enemy is about ot use a power skill but it takes a long time to cast use distracting shot to interupt it, and last use rez sig to ressurect fallen allies.

Credits--
Build Testing->Maruader of Shadows(me)
Build creator->I Feel really bad About this but i cant remember i just know it wasnt me who came up with this build so i wish them to have the credit if they are to see this thread,in fact i duno who originaly created this i just heard from a guy...lol so embarrasing.

Celab · Jul 22, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Don't bother, almost every regular to this area knows what is it.

Plus its in the sticky :P

Shadow Maruader · Jul 22, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

o well lol thx for the info lol, although i wish i could post it somwhere else so i could show ppl who hate assassins cus ppl who dont play assassins dont know about this and thats like 90 out of every 100 ppl

Celab · Jul 22, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Meh, i usually get into decent groups by saying "Critical barrager LFP" or create my own by stating exactly what i want ie "Team LF Tank, Healer monk (boon prot or other), Minion Master, Bonder OR second healer monk, Nuker."

usually gets enough people.

Chooby · Jul 22, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Don't Rush into battle like normal if you were used to using daggers, just stay back and let the warriors take aggro,

Oh, thats why people don't take us assassins into groups, because some assassins are stupid and rush in like a tank.

Tingi · Jul 22, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Crit barager sucks anyway. A normal ranger with barrage is way better...

fiery · Jul 22, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Agreed, Crit Barrager the most useless build ever.

Lord Oranos · Jul 22, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Im sure when he logs on hell appreciate the useless flames. Maybe since no one wants melee assassins thats why this is used. If you dont have anything good to say besides "oh this build sucks" , dont say anything.

Tainek · Jul 22, 2006, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by fiery

Agreed, Crit Barrager the most useless build ever.

You only have a valid point if you actually point out reasons

The Main Advantage of this build is the bleeding Inflicted, so vs many high AL targets this build will actually Out-do a Ranger Primary

if you havent got anything worth reading to say, dont waste everybodys time

dargon · Jul 23, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Tainek

You only have a valid point if you actually point out reasons

The Main Advantage of this build is the bleeding Inflicted, so vs many high AL targets this build will actually Out-do a Ranger Primary

if you havent got anything worth reading to say, dont waste everybodys time

The secondary advantage being the Assassins higher rate of critical hits, meaning more damage.

wilebill · Jul 23, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

Crit Barrager works very well for an Assassin who wants to be comfortable in PvE. For variety, add a pet, because pets are fun. No other reason.

I have an assassin variant of this which I ought to write up. Core of it, though, is marksmanship = 3, beast mastery = 12. I use the longbow you get from the collector outside Fort Rankin, 11-18, +7 elemental resistance. For a pet, I just got the level 20 blue reef crawler at the beginning of the Boreas Seabed mission. The Elite is Assassin's Promise.

With such a weak bow, doesn't sound like it would do much, but it is intended for use out with a full set of henchies. The low damage bow has the advantage that you yourself don't attract attention! Your pet does all the work with pet skills, and with Assassin's Promise each combat ends with all skills recharged and usually full energy.

Welcome to Mowing Down the Wildlife 'R Us! I've tested it on all of the Southern Kurzick Map and it leaves great smoking heaps of wildlife in its wake. Be sure and carry couple interrupts if you are going after boss groups.

xiao1985 · Jul 23, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

TBH, I played as a trapasin before I capped barrage so I can be a critical Barrager. cept i found i much like the style of a trapasin over critical barrager. sure you can inflict bleeding (which to lvl24 monsters are nothing any way) and you can maintain a steady dmg output, it's just that... feels like i am doing absolutely nothing cept barrage, barrage, barrage, barrage, dist shot when a boss/monster is casting a spell, then continuing barraging

s th irrelated
did shenjiang yesterday, apparently assassin hate (to both crit barrager and others) has yet gone down...

Elaine Donnerbalken · Jul 23, 2006, 11:05 AM // 11:05

average Damage per shot with bow (ranger, mk16): 41,01
average Damage .... (assassin, mk12, crit 13, crt eye): 38,91

The assassin would also cause 6dps through bleeding, the ranger could use a brutal weapon from the ritualist line (which would make the ranger superior for damage dealing).

All in all, barrage rangers seem to be better.

Phades · Jul 23, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by Elaine Donnerbalken

The assassin would also cause 6dps through bleeding, the ranger could use a brutal weapon from the ritualist line (which would make the ranger superior for damage dealing).

If the ranger cast the spell himself the damage per hit would be more, but the refire rate would be far worse almost cutting the damage in half depending on the target. If you were to have a ritualist babysitting your ranger, you would be better off just using a orders necro instead hitting the entire party at the same time with the buff.

Shadow Maruader · Jul 23, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Heh wow lotz of discussion all i have to say is im comfortable it hits plenty of Criticals on the lvl 28s in raisu palace(most likely due to my 20/19 Sundering bow since it has armor penetration it increases my chances of striking with a critical hit)

Hollerith · Jul 23, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Maruader

(most likely due to my 20/19 Sundering bow since it has armor penetration it increases my chances of striking with a critical hit)

What?

And I lol'd with the screenshot of the bow. Why post that?

Vahn Roi · Jul 23, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

I first heard about the "On Woman Blood Storm" build between the end of FPE and the release of Factions. I was very interested in it, but never played it.

Now I'm kind of sad when I see Assassins playing it in PvE, I'm much happier when I see an assassin play a dagger build effectively. But that's so rare...meh

Shadow Maruader · Jul 23, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Yeh lol all u want but no matter i posted that bow and reply this morning and its already out of date as far as to bow goes because i just finished killing shiro and got my new bow(hell no its not vampiric cus i dont see the need for it also i cant keep my hp up effectivly when it drains...)The zealous one since i have however had a few energy issues as far as barrage and the spamming but as long as i hit criticals and esspecialy with a mob i wont have to worry about running out of energy, i love it looks cool too.

Shadow Maruader · Jul 23, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by fiery

Agreed, Crit Barrager the most useless build ever.

Actualy would u rather
A-Have a Sin using Daggers run in and die b/c he doesn have hit and run skills
B-Have a Sin who is good with hit and run skills but hardly puts out Dmg
C-Have a Crit/Barrager who uses a bow hitting up to 50s on lvl 28s with critical hits and causing that foe to bleed,along with the 6 available targets close together.

Which would you rather prefer its pretty clear to me that Crit/Barrager is not a useless build at all.

Skuld · Jul 23, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

+5 dmg per hit always.. wth? you arent switching bow between fights?